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polymer 80 308 lower review
I look forward to sending more orders your way if the product holds to expectations. try to test this , I did . I agree with you. By the way I have one for sale if there’s any intresst left. I am enjoying this discussion; lots of great info! Fortunately for your warranty, very few people who own this platform ever put more than a few hundred rounds down the pipe in the entire time they own the weapon. rock mountain ! I tested this item the old fashioned way . Required fields are marked *. My rifle gas block is optimized for un-suppressed ammunition. Shoots great and no problems. I really don’t want to be that guy. If polymer is so good, why no polymer uppers? That said, it’s a fun project and you get to decide what to put in it and save money. I’ve got a 6920 with a current round-count of just over 3k that’s never been cleaned internally, and I built a “true” dissipator (rifle-length gas system, rifle-length buffer system, 16″ barrel – yes, that means there’s just over an inch from the gas hole to the end of the barrel) with a round count of slightly less than 2k that’s never been cleaned internally – neither of these has suffered an FTF or FTE as of yet. I purchased the kit on a whim when I was at the bigreno show, where I ran into someone representing the company. Lighter you may not be into light builds but it sure helps when lugging around large rifles! Ya, its a tough crowd here at TTAG, but also quick to share when the results are good, too. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=29ogf9Fsw74, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qcd1y3h6kvA. Hey youtube, this is Nate and I Iâm going to be giving a review of the James Madison tactical eighty percent AR-15 lower. But hey, if it’s where you’re positioning yourself, it’s a market. – Beefed up buffer tube ring and ribbing across the entire upper surface area. I look forward to the weight reduction. obsorbs kinetic energy with ease ! But for now that 211 gram difference is about 7.4 ounces or nearly a half pound. lets see if you all have brains and education to figure it all out that glock has already done the research for you ? Of course not, this is the worlds first, but we have been at this one for about 2 years so WE have our own experiences that have show us that it is MORE than viable when done right. Hi there. It’s the future of firearms. This falls in line with your typical billet lower, but you don’t need an expensive tool set to complete the build. Nylon66 (I wonder what polymer80 uses). Aluminum work hardens, is more difficult to weld successfully, has to be anodized instead of blued… I view aluminum as a real step down in gun-making material from steel or stainless steel. your arms will be tired more than a polymer . The WarrHogg is a solid platform that has no problem or stress from .308. rynite 540/545 is a material that can be used for high impact and for fireaerms frame designs , of coarse you can use any one of materials from the polymer family but this material is fleable and has high tensil strength . Even Robert missed it on the proof read. I'm including a you tube video clip of my field test so you can get an idea of how the rifle was operating and the pace I was putting it through. Again. POLYMER 80 versus ALUMINUM So this build up is something I'm familiar with AR15's. -Loran Kelley, They will also offer complete rifle kits for the 308 as well. I am doing a build on the warrhogg 308… I start tomorrow. haewired, May 21, 2019 in 80% Lowers. By It really helps! Bomb-proof forged receivers. Pasted as rich text. We use one (trade secret) but its essentially the same thing. I hope this info defines where your minds are headed ? The low numbers are embarrassing. You cannot paste images directly. Upload or insert images from URL. the sales rep or who ever represented polymer 80 should had a communication brochure with him so that the potential buy or distributor or whoever was to buy in bulk or just one item/product , they would of been debriefed like what the military does before a situation if its in communication, research or in the field , a retraining is a must here after reading article . Polymer80 Warrhogg 308 80 Lower ⦠The Showdown Aluminum receivers have been built ⦠Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Save my name, email, and website in this browser for the next time I comment. Only suggestion is a video of milling the lower. >> Once you get under about 7.5 lbs, recoil starts becoming rather snappy. Why Polymer? So while there are some billet or forged lowers to be had for 308, the polymer market 1. Or do you just hate the rural working class? Honestly I wouldn't go near one ever again. At all.Got it.” Ok. Got it. DuPont corp is developing a plastic that can be rifled , kinetic energy ,non bloating of barrel , and can be welded and rewelded by using frequency cutters that are in development by darpa and yes im a gov contractor . 2. × Immediately after removing the lower from the plastic jig to examine it, I noticed it is warpped across the top surface. So I did some on line research and came up fruitless so I thought I should give it a try anyway. Tennessee Arms Co AR308 crushtest go test forget the rest ! So, who else are you bigoted against? That was about 25 years ago +/- and it still shoots fine. I think the combined weight is 2 lbs. That is why the NYS police won’t release numbers on how many people registered their AR’s under the SAFE ACT. “Bigot” means unfairly against a person/belief. that one person uncle may be the banker of polymer 80 ? That said, I’ve seen how quickly your product fails, and when one does the math, it’s hardly worth the bother against a standard aluminum lower. I think it mills cleaner. Dude… you’re a faggot. So, my unrequested, unabashed review is 2 thumbs down, unless I was building a pellet gun, or maybe a .22LR AR platform. An accurate semi .308 when loaded up with a big scope, bipod or other accessories will weight much more than 7 pounds, I imagine, and every pound counts hauling it on steep ground, so I’m looking forward to how it works out. SHOP JMT JMT PRODUCTS Carbon 50 AR-15 80% Lower AR-15 80% Polymer Lower Carbon 50 .308 80% Lower.308 Equalizer polymer lower Thanks to Youtube, it became pretty apparent how to “mill out” the trigger group pocket and holes for the pins & safety selector. Mine was bought directly from the JMT website. I shoot suppressed 98% of the time to be a good neighbor. Let me know when you do! Politically correct smart phone. When I started this project, I was looking something in the 80% realm which is something Ive always wanted to try. Cleaned once @ approx 500 shots. Thanks for your continued reassurance that we are doing the right thing. Being polymer the receiver is a good bit lighter than an aluminum receiver. Do a search for Spartan Hunting preserve. So in my personal opinion my rifle was working fine, so you'll have to pretty much take my word for it and trust me. Self-respect? Precisely zero. I currently own a 350 Chevrolet that was built with good parts and puts out 450 HP to the back tires and is going on 135000 miles. It broke at the buffer tube thread ring, an OBVIOUS weak/stress point. They had to come up with the ‘SPORTS’ reminder of how to slap that AR turd when it inevitably malfunctioned. Thanks for having an open mind! Seems like you need to work on your communication, grammar, and spelling. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. First thing I found was the Receiver Extension ring threads were stripped, isolated to the lower portion of the ring. get to it all ! just because its metal doesn’t mean its better ? I am not about to pre-order one, but hey, maybe in a couple of years if the guinea pigs, beta testers, early adopters prove the reliability I absolutely will buy one. lightness ? The 308 unit is ATF-compliant, well within their defined parameters of a receiver blank. The Phoenix lower offers black rifle builders the opportunity to piece together an ultra-light AR-15 by using a polymer stripped receiver instead of a billet or forged unit. Your previous content has been restored. So while there are some billet or forged lowers to be had for 308, the polymer market has seen nothing until now. I am pretty sure that folks have worked out the bugs of a 308 polymer lower reciever. or multiple buyers from a gun club ? I know you will be a customer based on this post. I bough a polymer else where and laid a sledge hammer to the damn thing and the rifle still fired ! Sounds like you are used to driving your Prius and shooting an armalite. so whats all the fuss with plastic type receivers ? Polymer is great alternative to metal. The thicker octagonal buffer tube mount means it’s not a week point. If you drive a car and don’t like polymers in stressful situations, time to park it as repeated flexing, high heat, repeated use and all sorts of others things in cars are done with polymers. Clear editor. I only target those who are out to destroy American Culture and replace it with their own twisted garbage. There’s a market for “Zombie!” labeled stuff too. All of out 80% billet lowers are 100% cnc machined from 6061-T6 aircraft aluminum and are guaranteed to satisfy. Yes I got nailed by it. Is it hard being wrong all the time? No one with an IQ over room temp will ever take your product seriously, nor should they. Anodized UFS Gen.3 Billet Lowers, UFS Jig Kits, .308 80% LOWERS, LPKs We at 80lower.org have the absolute finest design on the market at this point with regards to the 80% lower receiver. I’m really a big fan of polymers and more current materials that won’t see guns for 20 years. The wonderous 20th century lightsaber handed down from on high by Uncle Joe and his “disciples”. Don’t own a mill, so I got a 6″x6″ sweep XY vice and used my stand alone drill press. Of course there is an incentive, too. so if a guy can get close to that same accuracy by building your own for half that, then its worth the trouble to tinker-DIY, to me, anyway. It’s guns. this way you cut through the color right ? I run a polymer 80 lower on 1 of my guns that has few thousand rounds through it and haven't had any cracks. some pits but what a champ ! Tools required to finish are far more common and easy to use. So my take on this, It isn’t about the polymer use in firearms, but the quality of part maufactured This is my 5th AR build this year and nothing I’ve put together previously has had quality issues this bad. white ? 5.56 is a popgun round, so even a low-tech polymer can handle it. just follow the color red ? Today we are going to be finishing an AR-15 lower receiver from the G150 kit from Polymer80. or blue ? My rifle has a 18" 1/10 Criterion barrel with a mid length gas system. If you fly, cancel any unused tickets and never fly again. If swapping to a polymer lower reciever will save enough weight to be worth the price, I’m on board. to the ultimate self test initiative ! . I too am having this issue. It sat in my safe for weeks until the day came I was going to test fire it. im pleased with it period and you all better or else . After my labor of love (So to speak) I field tested my rifle and went through a total of 100 rounds of assorted brands of 308. I'm also using a JP Rifles adjustable gas block. “The thicker octagonal buffer tube mount means it’s not a week point.”, I sometimes try to be funny as well as obnoxious…. We have a design of our own on file and will eventually produce our own, but in the mean-time; here you go! *After staring at all the photo's I could find I thought that EP's lower looked chinsy, and I wanted a Jig. When news of the Ares Armor situation broke they were proactive in understanding and making sure their customers were safe . I was speaking to THIS particular application. JMT .308/7.62 80% Polymer Lower Receiver & Jig Review of the Best AR-10 80% Lowers Below, weâll be taking a look at two of the best AR-10 80% lowers considered the best on the market. For those hoping to avoid the government knowing about it, don’t worry, if they want to know, they will, sort of. Personally, I don’t like aluminum on guns, never mind plastic or composites. If you don’t like the polymers fine. When I started this project, I was looking something in the 80% realm which is something I've always wanted to try. I through an aluminum out of the same plane yes I also have a pilots license ,lol , and mountain top and the aluminum was tweeked very much in the areas needed for bolt release and magazine acceptance . As with all Polymer80 lower kits, you get the lower and jig, along with all the bits needed to complete the project. I was impressed with how light the assembled lower was, but when I assembled the weapon, I DID NOT like the side to side flex i could EASILY create with the slightest bit of side to side pressure across the middle of the weapon. Yeah, iF it makes it through 400 rounds without an FTF, you should buy lottery tickets. with a hammer and sledgehammer . That's a really nice rifle. When they run out of aluminum, then we can talk. Javascript is disabled on your browser. The wood lower receiver is not for sale, so polymer and Aluminum tend to rule the 80% world. It will be a few years before I go to 308 but when I do, for a build, this is a real good option. I’m not saying that the piston-based systems aren’t better (I do think they are) but I personally haven’t, nor do I know of anyone who has, seen any modern incarnation of Stoner’s design fail because it got too dirty from soot/blowback – actual DIRT is another matter, but nothing related to the direct impingement design. Not to say that’s bad but buying or shooting something to keep with the status quo some of us shoot polymers and enjoy it. I have a first Gen ATI Omni that only survived 200 rounds on a 5.56 AR before cracking at the rear. 2. “The thicker octagonal buffer tube mount means it’s not a WEEK point.” Errr, WEAK point? In a few months there will be those who have put thousands of rounds through and still shooting with a smile. After all, the Ruger P-90 series was the only handgun I can think of to actually use a full poly frame/rails…and that is with handgun rounds. I would like to know what the weight is of one of these finished. No-thread design on pistol My rifle pretty much operated well with the exception of me lubricating everything but the BCG causing a failure of return to battery, and the Buffer weight detent leaving it's rightful place in the receiver extension ring causing a misfire at the 80th round. We'll also compare and contrast 6061 T6 billet and 7075 T6 forged aluminum, what ⦠Loren, my hat is off to you for putting in the time experimenting and testing to come up with a .308 lower. For a while. And this is not just a Constructing the lower wasn't easy as there no such thing as "Milspec" in the 308 AR world (as far as I've researched). just research the kinetic energy areas of rear for bolt passage and buffer tube threading and allignmentation . Apparently that’s your level, so if you can be proud of sub-mediocre, then you are in the right place. Be safe out there! It’s kind of a cultural gutter, like having a pair of ‘truck nutz’ hanging off your hitch. 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